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What were we talking to?

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That's Robert Gribble, a phenomena research.

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Yes.

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I'm really interested in hearing about your experience last night.

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Would you like to talk about it now?

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Yes, I would like to very much.

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Okay, I guess I could start from where it all took place.

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I was out with a friend of mine, seven or 18.

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And we went out and we were going to have a concert,

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like a live concert recorded on the radio that night.

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So we went out and parked by the slums like we were listening to that and just talking.

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Our stand-in made that count with the slums.

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And as we were sitting out there, we saw a light in the sky like a star is sitting there.

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But it would lightly, but noticeably change color from a light to a green to a red,

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but not exactly on that same order sometimes.

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We just keep changing like that, rotating like it would be white turning to a green,

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instead of white and a green.

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And we went over on this third road down farther to see if we could get a better look at.

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And we trowled down these third roads and all these turns.

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We didn't know where we were going.

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We ended up in this field.

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That's when we started building these new houses.

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And we went out, we got out, turned on the lights, went over.

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We stood at the corner of the slot and looked out at it through the trees.

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And we noticed it was just sitting there.

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And when we were closer to it, it looked like we could see the colors changing, the more vivid.

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But it was still a long way away.

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We figured it was just to start with a lot of atmosphere and find out or something.

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Yes.

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And so we took off and started driving away.

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And my friend looked back at it again and he said it was moving.

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So we stopped their car.

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And when we stopped the car, we looked up through the trees and it kept going through the trees for maybe about five seconds for us to leave.

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And then it stopped and it didn't move again.

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So we turned around and we tried to go back to the place we were before.

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But it seemed like it was at a different area, like more north.

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So we headed up northward along these streets.

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And well, there's so much to happen.

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I forgot to tell you the most.

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When we first went out in the field, where we went to, just before we came to a stop,

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in the middle of nowhere was a big, like, dust bath.

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We just thought it stirred.

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We really didn't take much of an hour.

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We thought maybe a car had been zipped in by.

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But then we wondered how come it was only for about, oh, maybe a 30 area foot span, just like dust.

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We didn't take much of another.

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And then when we tried to follow that thing back, we took a bunch of different roads, like paved streets onto some dirt roads again.

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And we went past the exact same place where we were before looking up at it.

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And the dust was still there, just that one patch.

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And so finally we figured maybe something was going on.

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We got out of the car to see if it was dust.

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And we smelled it, and it didn't have no smell or no odor or nothing to it.

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And it wasn't dust.

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You could brush it away with your hands when we had the lights on.

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You could, like, feel the moves of your hands.

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It would fall away to it.

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But when we got out in it, it was like a static feeling, kind of like it was.

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I don't know.

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We both had the chills.

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They just couldn't be as scary.

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When we got out, it was like, I don't know, like a light feeling.

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So not lightheaded.

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It would be hard to describe.

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My whole body weight felt like.

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And so we looked at it, and we figured, did it move or not?

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Did it go more north?

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And so we figured we'd go back and stand at the corner of the lot again.

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So we were looking at it through the trees.

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And this time, it wasn't even close to the trees.

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It was probably another 20 degrees higher than it was before, up in the air.

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And so now that's when we figured it must not be as far as it was still just in there.

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So we didn't know what to do.

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And we figured every time we drove off, we came back, something would happen.

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And this was in the Helly territory.

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So we drove off and went to the end of the road.

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And he said it was moving again.

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So we would stop.

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But when we would stop, we'd look at a telephone pole or something that was next to it.

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It wouldn't be moving anymore.

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But we would see it move very lightly once in a while when we were stopped.

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But nothing distinct like we did the first time.

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And this took place in about maybe a half hour.

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And then up next to the little start was the flashing white light.

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Just like it came like a strobe light.

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And it wasn't going real fast.

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Like maybe 3 beats a second.

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And then it just disappeared.

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And that was gone.

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So we stayed, watched it longer.

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And nothing happened.

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We would start to get forward, start to leave, see if we could catch it moving again.

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And we'd just get interested again.

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And we'd turn around and go back.

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And the third time that we went back for it,

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we saw a big red cubicle light.

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It was oblong.

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It was long, square, with a pretty definite shape to it.

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And it was a really bright and tense red.

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Probably 300 yards.

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Just over a few in the hills.

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Just sitting there.

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And it started to go lower.

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And then go off toward left until it dropped behind the hill.

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And we went over there.

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We took the roads up, as close as we could find.

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And when we got out there, we would, we timed it every 7 seconds.

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There would be a flash of white light.

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And we could tell no distinct place it was coming from.

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So we'd sit in our car and the light would flash every second.

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And we'd look up at the little star again.

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And it would be the same place.

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Nothing changed for that.

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So we got out of the car and we could see if we could find out where the light was coming from.

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And as we got out, it started going around the light with flash.

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Like it was, like it was almost even time with us.

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We got in the car and it would flash 5 seconds later.

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And then 7 seconds from that it flashed again.

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It started regular flash.

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So we had the radio turned off.

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I always thought about, like I've been read a lot about UFOs.

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I heard about the thing.

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Messed up your reception.

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I wasn't even thinking about that, which we should have had the radio turned on.

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But we did have the car going once.

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And the night before, I just had it tuned up and thinking how good it was running when we were sitting.

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And it started to get a vibration, like not a shaking vibration.

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Or a really bad noise, but like that.

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It would be hard.

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It wasn't a hum.

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It was like vibrating, but the car wasn't vibrating.

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And it was kind of a low, not too low pitch noise.

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It wasn't a real high pitch.

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And I shut off my car.

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And it still did it for about 2 seconds after my car was turned on.

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And we got really scared then.

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We didn't know if we should stick around when we were hanging on to each other.

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So we went out of the light again.

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And I think there was nothing we could do.

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We got out of there.

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So we left.

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And we just had that string, like, you know, airy feeling.

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Like we didn't know what was going on.

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And we got to the phone.

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I called my mom.

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She said I'd be home later because we wanted to go back once more.

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So when we came back over the hills, took the dirt roads again.

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That was the very first time.

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And when we got over the hill, there was a white.

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It wasn't red.

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It was a bright white intense light.

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That was, it didn't have a definite oblong shape.

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But if you could tell, it was like a square.

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But it didn't have no definite really size to it.

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And it went straight up.

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And then it just was gone.

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I could move it up a little to the left.

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Just going straight up.

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And there, like, we didn't see no trace of where it went or how it disappeared.

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Like it just wasn't there.

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And then we saw that bright, white flashing light again.

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And it was a really high intense, like it seemed really close.

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Like it was directed at us because when it would flash, we couldn't see anything else.

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Except the flashing light.

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It was reflecting off the car enough to light up the inside of our car.

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And then that disappeared.

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And suddenly as it came out, and we sat there for a while to see what would happen again.

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And the star that we saw in the first place was still sitting up there.

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And we took off, not knowing what to do, watching the star.

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And that little bright intense strobe light again was up next to the little star up in the sky.

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We could barely see it blinking up there once again.

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And we went home.

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And as we went home, we drove through the city, what's in light.

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And we noticed that when we got to the stoplight, like there, they got pink lights out here as per street lights.

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That's the glare, and we cut out every star except for the ones we thought was the star.

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And that would be up higher than most of the other stars around.

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The lower stars, none of the stars would even show up.

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And we went home.

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I took him home, and I took myself home.

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And we watched, and I was watching all the way home.

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When I took the corner out of my street to go up the street, it wasn't there anymore.

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When I came up the corner, it was out of view behind the trees, but from up the corner.

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And then it just wasn't there when I came up the street, and then I came home.

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And I took place between quarter to ten, two out of thirty.

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Which part of the sky was that starlight light hanging in?

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Northy end.

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Now when that bright light went into that vertical climb, was that a perfect vertical climb?

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Yeah, it was. It didn't have no tilt to one side or another.

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Okay, was that a high speed?

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No, it wasn't. When we both saw it, it was traveling very slow.

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We saw the red light at the first, before it went down.

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It was a bright, focused red light that we could really make out.

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And the white light was a lot more blurred, but still held the same shape, but with a lot less detail too.

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Did you ever see the source of where this flash was coming that was making the car?

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No, we did. That's where we got out of the car to see where it would be.

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And it would light up the trees all along the side of the grass in the field.

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But when we got out and tried to locate it, we couldn't drive around because the road was limited.

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But when we got out of the car, the light would stop flashing.

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So we located it, and we were scared anyways to be walking around to the grass.

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Did that flash illuminate the inside of the car?

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Yes, it did.

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Okay, did you have, while that was going on, any unusual physical sensations?

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That strange feeling that we had that first time, it was like a really light body.

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Like light-headed, we had a tingly sensation.

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Like my hair would feel like it was standing up, I'm sure it even was.

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And it was a light feeling.

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Like I wasn't taking my own thoughts really, like I was in the days with what was going on.

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Okay.

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Like we would be grabbing each other and saying, look, look, because we were sure, I guess,

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ourselves that it was going on.

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And finally we calmed down and started just trying to talk about it.

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And it really was happening, as we both see it.

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Okay.

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Did anything unusual happen to the car or what was going on?

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Just that one time where it got the strange vibration.

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Okay.

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Which...

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But did that vibration in your opinion feel kind of like the high frequency sound wave?

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It wasn't high, I can remember that.

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It wasn't the high-pitched, I guess.

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I know it felt more internal than extra.

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Uh-huh.

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And yeah, I guess that's the best I can describe.

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It wasn't a buzz, it was the closest it could be.

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Okay, well that flashing was going on.

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Did you have any mental sensations of any kind?

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Uh-huh.

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We had just that kind of feeling all the time going through this.

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And we did notice when we left the area, the feeling would go away.

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We came back and started to get to a stand.

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That's not knowing if it was just a spear or if it was something else.

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Okay, did you notice any unusual odor in the air?

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No, there wasn't any odor.

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I don't know.

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We checked for that.

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Oh, awful during that.

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The second time we went up to it, I drove the car up on a hill.

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I had one headlight out.

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And out of the one headlight on, we were pointed up toward the sky where the sky was.

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And I flashed one light on to the bright and then to the moth.

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Uh-huh.

242
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And then I hit the one light and then flashed the bright and then to the moth.

243
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And I did that for a series of minutes, probably about.

244
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How close do you feel any one of those objects came to you?

245
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Oh, the area we were in and the area it lit up, it would have to be within a hundred yards.

246
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Okay.

247
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Did you take up any sound while all this was going on?

248
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Just that one time.

249
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We had a window throw down.

250
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Character not.

251
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Okay.

252
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Then when you were driving home, did you have any problems with the car?

253
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No, I didn't.

254
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Um, this morning though, when my mother came out to the car, she noticed that the tires had that light leech to a white.

255
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And, uh, like I just bought the car a couple weeks ago.

256
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And I liked to just have that nice black tires and the chrome rims and the tunings.

257
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And now it looks like some of the light scraping, light scraping, gone over my tires.

258
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And she took a picture of that.

259
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But, uh, they were coated with some kind of white.

260
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And it wasn't that.

261
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We tried to take it off and taste it.

262
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I tasted it and it wasn't there.

263
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Okay.

264
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Do you feel that during that entire experience, at any time during the experience that you had any loss of time involved?

265
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Time went really fast. I know that much.

266
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It was 1130 before we even knew it.

267
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It seemed like it took place for the 20 minutes really.

268
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Okay.

269
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I don't know what kept going on.

270
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Now your mother said you, uh, chalked up quite a few miles last night.

271
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Do you feel you traveled that far?

272
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Uh, no I didn't at all.

273
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I was in front of a factory at home right now.

274
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I didn't have any gas.

275
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I just put in six dollars for it yesterday.

276
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But I didn't think we drove that much.

277
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Did you have a wrist watch on?

278
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No, I didn't.

279
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We, uh, knew what time it was.

280
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Brian, uh, came to the industry to get started at nine o'clock in the first album.

281
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So I just got over with it and they had a cheap commercial in the beginning of the time, which was about nine forty-three or so.

282
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We were just about to start the other side of the album.

283
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Okay.

284
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How many problems with the radio while that was going on?

285
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We turned it off.

286
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Okay.

287
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It's not about us shooting that stuff.

288
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Okay.

289
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Oh, I sure appreciate you're talking to us.

290
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Okay.

291
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I'm glad to have something to look at.

292
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And, uh, if anything unusual comes up through it, back to your memory that you haven't mentioned, why, write it down so you don't forget it.

293
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And we'll probably get back to you later on to see if anything news come up.

294
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Okay.

295
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Can I talk to your mother again?

296
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Yeah, of course you should.

297
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Thanks.

298
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Thank you.

299
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Thank you.

300
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Hello.

301
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Yes, well, we sure appreciate the opportunity to talk to your son.

302
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You think he's really intelligent?

303
00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,000
Yes.

304
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He appears to be rather relaxed this evening.

305
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Yes, he is compared to yesterday.

306
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Okay.

307
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Now I have one question.

308
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When you called the command post at Lowry, did they mention anything about other reports coming in?

309
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Do you know what I stopped asking that type of thing for having worked in government things?

310
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See nothing, you don't tell nothing.

311
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But, uh, I didn't ask them because I know there is mute.

312
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If they had 80 reports, they wouldn't tell you.

313
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Okay, did they have information on our organization at the command post?

314
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Yeah.

315
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Okay, fine.

316
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Now, uh, let me see here.

317
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I wrote this down.

318
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You know, I saw anything many years ago when Orson Welles put on that program.

319
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I was in college at Ohio University.

320
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Right.

321
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And I made a report on that.

322
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I took short story writing.

323
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And at the time, I got, I was with some of our friends, of course it was all by radio.

324
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And this was in New Jersey where they were landing at Lee's and many people were out there.

325
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The panic was terrific.

326
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And all of a sudden it occurred to me.

327
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And I switched to another station.

328
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If this was an national emergency, uh, every station will carry it.

329
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And the moment I switched to another station, something else was on.

330
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But you know that these friends were crying, many of them, they were very frightened.

331
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And to tell the truth, I was a little frightened too.

332
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But I just used my brain.

333
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Because of course, as I just told you, if it were a national emergency, it was every station.

334
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Right.

335
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But that's probably how I got into this work.

336
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I might tell you, I passed a test to work on the direct overseas communication for hotline during World War II,

337
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to direct line to the front.

338
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Now that's quite an honor, but I turned it down.

339
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Foolishly, I turned it down.

340
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This would have been in Arlington, Virginia.

341
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Oh, I see.

342
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Yep.

343
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I should have taken some of these opportunities.

344
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But they were really marvelous opportunities.

345
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Now, what else?

346
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Can you make a...

347
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Is it possible that he can get a little report on this?

348
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I think he'd find this interesting for future.

349
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Or you don't.

350
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You don't like to reveal any of it, or could he have?

351
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Oh, yes.

352
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If we, uh, once we get all the data together and get it put into a report form, we'll see that he gets a copy.

353
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,000
Would you let him have it?

354
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,000
You do have the address, don't you?

355
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,000
Yes, I do.

356
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,000
Uh, no, let me see here.

357
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,000
You still want me to get a sample?

358
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Oh, that makes me shudder to think of him touching that stuff, trying it out.

359
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But, uh, probably normal.

360
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I can send you the pictures when I get the results.

361
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Fine, that would be great.

362
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,000
Sure.

363
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,000
Well, they're different.

364
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Believe me.

365
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They're different.

366
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Uh, as I say, I ordinarily would put my glasses on.

367
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You do get little, you do get near as sighted when you get to be 58.

368
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And of course I knew, times he got out and around a little bit, it would wear down so.

369
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,000
Yeah, now where is it that I could send the pictures?

370
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,000
Okay, our address is...

371
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Did you notice him telling about, he wasn't sure about the time?

372
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Right.

373
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It seemed like time passed differently.

374
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,000
Right.

375
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This is, uh, the usual thing.

376
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The passage of time is, uh, they're not able to relate it to it.

377
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,000
They're often, yes.

378
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,000
All right.

379
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,000
Have you had any from the Denver area, please?

380
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000
No, ma'am, we haven't.

381
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:16,000
Well, when I talked to them here at Bowery, they told me that it sounds like they were out in the area of the arsenal.

382
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,000
Uh-huh.

383
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,000
Well, if we come up with any more information on this, why, we'll get back to it and let you know about it.

384
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,000
Well, there really isn't any information to it.

385
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:33,000
There's nothing that you, it's a compilation, isn't it?

386
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,000
Well, I'll definitely come up with any additional reports, but I'm sure you'll like to know about it.

387
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,000
But you haven't said anything from Denver, then, but...

388
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,000
No, no.

389
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,000
No.

390
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,000
But someone said that last Friday there was a report on it.

391
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,000
So there have been sightings here.

392
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,000
Uh-huh.

393
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,000
It was on TV, on Channel 4, in the news.

394
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,000
Right, okay.

395
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,000
Yeah.

396
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,000
Well, I will get these pictures developed.

397
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,000
You want me to send them your attention?

398
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,000
Yes, please.

399
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,000
Yes, I just hope they work all right.

400
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I think they will.

401
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,000
I took them around 8 o'clock this morning.

402
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,000
No, 7.30 this morning.

403
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,000
Yep.

404
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,000
Okay, thanks again.

405
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,000
All right.

406
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,000
I sure thank you for calling.

407
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,000
Okay.

408
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,000
Bye.

409
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Bye now.